Summer Challenge - KNOTS Tatting

[soyloquesoy]

I have been wondering, is there any challenge running or planned? I couldn't find one...

I do keep myself challenged anyway, but thought it might be fun to have a"mission" and share. Particularly if it is something not too time consuming (as I am in a busy passage of my life - that is part of the reason I am not joining the 25 motif challenge, that I don't want to have to keep a blog...)

[OwenJulesMommy]

I would like to join a summer challenge - something to do while the kiddos are in the pool!

[Kersti]

I was thinking of a challenge to tat any of the patterns which need a photo from knots - http://www.intatters.com/knots/tag/photo-needed/

[Valerie]

sounds like a good idea, kersti.

[OwenJulesMommy]

I really like that idea! One of the edgings I've already done, but I turned it into a circle so I don't think that would count!!! Maybe I'll do it again as an edging and photograph it. It would make a great summer challenge!

[rain]

I would love to do that coaster, only I dont have the book lol so I guess my challenge would be getting the book to do the pattern!!!

[PattyD]

I like Kersti's challenge. I get to try new things and perform a service for InTatters at the same time. A win-win situation.

[BahmaTerri]

Great idea, Kersti.

[Josie Passell]

:smile:I've checked Knots and chosen :heart:Hearts Desire:heart: by S Fuller to tat whilst I'm away at the seaside:dothewave: next week.

[soyloquesoy]

Oh! That's a *cool* challenge! Great idea Kersti!

I'm in, only I want want want to do the same design as Josie :whistling:

I have chosen a couple more as "backups"...

[Imoshen]

Ater we tat the design how would we add it to the KNOTS page?

[soyloquesoy]

I believe you just send the image to Kersti (or post it in your album here and tell Kersti)

[Valerie]

ahhh, i don't own any of those vintage books. is there an easier way to get my hands on the pattern online?

[soyloquesoy]

Check each pattern: the three I have chosen have patterns on-line.
http://www.intatters.com/knots/2010/02/hearts-desire/
http://www.intatters.com/knots/2010/01/frivolite-herz/ (in German, does have a glossary I think)
http://www.intatters.com/knots/2009/11/circle-in-tatting/ (in vintage longhand, should be some challenge reading it...)

[Kersti]

While I generally try to use the original photo as it's the best representation of the designer's ideas, if you tat any of these by all means send on your pic! Obviously the ones marked as "photo needed" are the highest priority, they tend to be vintage patterns too so a modern take would be great. Upload your photo here and let me know :)

Feel free to add any pattern notes to the comments on Knots, and if you find the pattern in other books let me know that too - there was a lot of re-printing going on in the 30s-60s

If you don't have a vintage pattern in any of your books, let me know which it is and I'll see what I can do.

[Dale Marie]

Sounds like an excellent challenge.

[Valerie]

I'm very keen to recreate Floral Embellishment 9105. I went to ebay and found someone has a copy out for bids. However, I think the price is set too high (5.99 + 13.99 shipping). I'm looking elsewhere. Hope someone has a copy of this and is willing to share...

An alternative that I would like to recreate would be Floral Motif 9112. If for any reason I can't get hold of the actual pattern, well, I'll work from the visual that's on KNOTS. :)

[Kersti]

Many of these patterns were reprinted in other books - so someone might be able to point us to a modern, in print book that has them. Meanwhile
9105 - http://www.intatters.com/knots/wp-content/uploads/0161pat.png
9112 - http://www.intatters.com/knots/wp-content/uploads/0165pat.png

[Valerie]

Many of these patterns were reprinted in other books - so someone might be able to point us to a modern, in print book that has them. Meanwhile
9105 - http://www.intatters.com/knots/wp-content/uploads/0161pat.png
9112 - http://www.intatters.com/knots/wp-content/uploads/0165pat.png

thanks so much, kersti. you are fabulous!

i'll work on them right away and send you pictures as soon as they are ready. :D

[Imoshen]

I've started the pattern 9089 from Coats and Clark book 229. Should be posted tomorrow in my album.

[spuriportugal]

Hi Kersti,
I'm in!!!!!
I would love to take part of this challenge!!!
Maria
Portugal

[shannon_in_love]

there isnt a pattern for 9080 do you know where to find it?

[carolivy]

there isnt a pattern for 9080 do you know where to find it?

Is it one of the patterns from Book 29? If it is, that book can still sometimes be found on Ebay.

[shannon_in_love]

ah. ok

[Judy]

I posted where I found many of the patterns from booklet 229 in Knots with the pattern. There's two dover books that have reprinted some -- doesn't appear to be any overlap.

[Kersti]

there isnt a pattern for 9080 do you know where to find it?

That's at http://www.intatters.com/knots/wp-content/uploads/9080.png

[shannon_in_love]

Hey ya'll. what do you guys think.
4673
i tried to eyeball it. the original picture is here-->http://www.intatters.com/knots/2010/04/edging-9071/

this is what i did

*r1:3ds,p,4ds,p,4ds,p,3ds
rw
ch1:6ds,p,14ds
rw
r2:7ds,join to middle p, 7ds
rw
ch1bw:14ds,p,6ds
r1 joined at center p
ch2:4ds,p,4ds*
rep *to*
ch1bw = ch1 backwards
in between the first and 2nd repeat has ch2:5ds,p,5ds whereas the last 2 have the ch2: 4ds,p,4ds. as you see the 4,p,4 is better

also the white one was done on size #7 needle with size 80 thread and this red was done on a shuttle with size 10 thread
4674

[MercyPres]

Clicking on Shannon's attachment links drops me to an error message :(

[shannon_in_love]

ok let me try to size them down

[shannon_in_love]

46754676can you see them now

[MercyPres]

Yes, I can now see them. Very good following just the picture.So frequently with pictures I miss count stitches.

[Kersti]

i tried to eyeball it. the original picture is here-->http://www.intatters.com/knots/2010/04/edging-9071/


That's now the image for the link in Knots :)

[shannon_in_love]

omg thank you thats so cool!

[Snowy]

I would like to join the challenge with this insertion from page 4 of the "photos needed" pages. It is by Isabella Beeton.
http://www.intatters.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4709

and this is the original (http://www.intatters.com/knots/2009/11/124/). Mmm, not too similar, I agree, but I followed the instructions.

[soyloquesoy]

Shannon, isn't it just so cool to see the picture of your tatting there?

Snowy, Beeton's drawing was probably and "ideal" version. I have done that pattern as a bookmark twice, I have some strips of that pattern tatted by my grandmother many years ago, and they all look like yours ;) I think your picture is great to get to Knots too!

[shannon_in_love]

soyloquessoy... you have no idea how happy it had made me....see I'm 25 and very excitable. i woke my bf up from a dead sleep i was so excited...then i had to do dishes..lol

[Valerie]

an observation wrt to the motifs i'm tatting (for both 9105 and 9112):

the pattern states "J&P Coats Tatting Crochet #70"... and the smallest sized thread i have is #40. so when i tatted up the flower motifs, esp the largest flower with lots of picots and joints, i find the stitches overlap one another. seems overcrowded, if you know what i'm talking about. am still working on the patterns. hope to finish them soon.

[shannon_in_love]

maybe your just pulling it closed to tight. or maybe the stitches are just too loose. have you got a picture of it so far?
do you mean where there are tons of picots? that just means to tug a bit on the picots.

[Valerie]

shannon, have a look at the patterns in KNOTS. you'll probably know what i mean. sorry haven't got pictures yet as they r still wip. :)

[Kersti]

Mmm, not too similar, I agree, but I followed the instructions. You did a great job - your picture is there now :)

[Judy]

I'm finishing up on edging 9075. Nice work, everyone.

[frakira]

I am not sure if I understand this challenge (maybe because I don't know what knots is). Should I tat one of photo needed patterns, make photo and challenge will be done? E.g. this one? http://www.intatters.com/knots/2010/03/insertion-with-lace-stitch/
When does this challenge finish? (I know it isn't difficult pattern, but in this cases I like deadlines ;-))

[carolivy]

That is what needs to be done Frakira. That way we have nice Tatting to see if we are interested in doing the pattern instead of old, scratchy B&W photos.

[Judy]

Posted my 9075 edgings. Two choices. I like the colors on the darker one better; perhaps a more consistent green would have helped on the one with gold flowers. There's a third photo in my 2010 album.

[shannon_in_love]

yeah i like the darker.

[PattyD]

I am intrigued by Edging 9080, since it is a two shuttle, single single thread tatted design. This will be my first challenge piece. I am already contemplating using 2 colors.

[Josie Passell]

I have tried to upload a scan of Hearts Desire. I think I need to try again when I'm more awake tomorrow.

[Kersti]

Posted my 9075 edgings. Two choices. I like the colors on the darker one better; perhaps a more consistent green would have helped on the one with gold flowers. There's a third photo in my 2010 album.

And this one is now in use :) Loved them both, couldn't decide

[Mike M]

I already have done hearts desire. does that count? I have pictures of it too. hehe.

[Kersti]

It certainly does :)

[carolivy]

Motif #8089 from Book 229 is now done and uploaded to my album.

[Kersti]

That's very pretty with that thread - what did you use?

[carolivy]

I used some size 10 Nazli Gelin, color # 701-35 that HJ Hess gave me from the InTatters Birthday draw.

[Sonja]

I tried to download the pattern of the butterfly, but the whole page is on 200x300 pixels. Impossible to read the text.

[shannon_in_love]

ok y'all. warning this isn't my best work but i wanted to show you. ok i have been having personal issues with this particular pattern in knots. its here http://www.intatters.com/knots/2010/01/rosette-in-tatting/ (http://www.intatters.com/../knots/2010/01/rosette-in-tatting/) and so its been the thorn in my side. i stumbled onto this website http://tat-calendar.blogspot.com/search?q=HEARTS check out January 31 post down at the bottom-ish. see something familiar..i tried it today and this is how it came out.
4986and yes i do know how awkward it looks but it clearly is my thorn

[frakira]

I began this rosette and didn't finish it, because I decided, that it is so nice on knots only because it is image and not photo of tatting. I think your work is good and can't be much better with this pattern ;-)

[shannon_in_love]

well see the thing is, it was bugging me that i didn't understand it. the other thing is, that my kids were jumping all around me so my tension was way off. thats why i say its not good.i love this pattern though. so thats good

[MercyPres]

Confused about where to post about which I am trying, so I am posting in group and here.
I have started working on figuring out Beeton’s book of Needlework - Tatted edging - InTatters - Knots - 0114
Three or 4 of the scallops out of the 7 I have done that look like the example, so I am getting somewhere. I am working in size 10 thread so I can see what I am doing. The instructions are certainly confusing in places. Doing the joins (at least I think that is what is meant) exactly right is important on this one for sure. This may take a few trys to get it right.

Mercy

[soyloquesoy]

I already have done hearts desire. does that count? I have pictures of it too. hehe.

There are so many beautiful renditions of heart's desire! we should have a vote/poll for which one to use! (or make a gallery of it's own, at least!)

[Green Gal]

ok y'all. warning this isn't my best work but i wanted to show you. ok i have been having personal issues with this particular pattern in knots. its here http://www.intatters.com/knots/2010/01/rosette-in-tatting/ (http://www.intatters.com/../knots/2010/01/rosette-in-tatting/) and so its been the thorn in my side. i stumbled onto this website http://tat-calendar.blogspot.com/search?q=HEARTS check out January 31 post down at the bottom-ish. see something familiar..i tried it today and this is how it came out.
and yes i do know how awkward it looks but it clearly is my thorn
Ha that so funny I did that the night before last and apart from the different colours our motives could be twins. Dis you needle or shuttle tat?

[Mike M]

here is my rendition of Hearts desire. 4990

[Josie Passell]

Thats a very pretty thread Mike, what is it? I love your long picots, they make it look so delicate.

[soyloquesoy]

That's stunning Mike! I love your choice of threads (in this one and in the work you show on your blog)!

[frakira]

very nice, I like these colours too ;-)

[Mike M]

This is HDT that Sandra E. Sent me a couple years ago. The name of it is called Apple Blossom, by Tatskool. I am so glad that I blogged about that because I had forgotten who had done the thread. So there you are. this is Her work. Thank you Sandra, Thank you Tatskool and you all are welcome. Thanks for the commentary I am glad you all like the work. I love how the picots lay. The longer ones really do make it light and airy, dainty even. I believe this is cordonnet size 20 for those counting. M.

[carolivy]

ok y'all. warning this isn't my best work but i wanted to show you. ok i have been having personal issues with this particular pattern in knots. its here http://www.intatters.com/knots/2010/01/rosette-in-tatting/ (http://www.intatters.com/../knots/2010/01/rosette-in-tatting/) and so its been the thorn in my side. i stumbled onto this website http://tat-calendar.blogspot.com/search?q=HEARTS check out January 31 post down at the bottom-ish. see something familiar..i tried it today and this is how it came out.
4986and yes i do know how awkward it looks but it clearly is my thorn

I love a good challenge! I did this pattern and found that when (as in many patterns that call for the Paperclip) you need the paperclip, all you REALLY need is a place holder for 1 stitch. I used a small piece of wire, just a bit smaller than the thread that I was using. The pattern came out great then. I have used this technique many times where a Paperclip is called for. Many times the thickness of the paperclip is much larger than the thread you are using and it makes for an odd "looseness" on the part that has that join. I did this one in size 30 Cébélia as that is what I had handy sitting here at my desk. :wink:

[shannon_in_love]

see yours looks awesome. i guess its a pattern that needs to be solid color. So carolivy. i totally see what you mean but using a smaller sized place holder.

green gal i do both shuttle and needle but this one was done with shuttle.

[coretta]

good to see it successfully completed

[frakira]

carolivy, your realization is nearly perfect! I can't believe that this pattern can be so nice..

[Imoshen]

I'm about to start the Hayden yoke. It's a large enough project to keep me going in the next couple of weeks. I've never done anything like it so I'd thought to try it out.

[Josie Passell]

I started the Hayden yoke a couple of days ago and I've done 2 roses and 2 wheels, my tension is tighter than the tatting in the photo, so it might turn out a lot smaller. :-)

[Judy]

I am in awe of your decision to take on this monumental work. Keep us posted on the progress. What colors are you using?

[Josie Passell]

I stuck to white, as Kersti wanted them as tatted and I think most yokes then would have been white/ecru. Plus if I do it and enjoy it, then I can add colour and adjustments to the pattern :-)

[StephanieGrace]

I wrote down a bunch that I wanted to do and printed out two of the patterns. Naturally, I don't have threads to coordinate with each other for any of them. LOL. Sooo, I'm going for the simple Beeton Edge. (http://www.intatters.com/knots/2009/12/beeton-edge/ (http://www.intatters.com/../knots/2009/12/beeton-edge/)) While I haven't made any huge mistakes or anything, I realized that I really don't like it. LOL. I went for white for the rings and a dark green for the chains since the rings look flowery, to me... ANYWHO, That the bottom edge of each "flower" is two chains together is driving me crazy! LOL. I'm going to do more on what I have, but I doubt anyone will want the picture, LOL.

So, why am I bothering with this post? To keep myself going. LOL. I needed to vent. Sorry. :blush: Hopefully, my camera or my phone will work for me to take a picture later and I can post it tonight after I've done a bit more. :-)

:heart:,
Stephanie Grace

[Imoshen]

So, why am I bothering with this post? To keep myself going. LOL. I needed to vent

Don't feel bad, I did one oval and one rosette on the Hayden yoke and then found out I hate doing rosettes...lol..

[MercyPres]

I am on my 4th sample, doing 8 repeats of the pattern and I am fighting the top layer of chains. They need to be VERY even. The first sample was just to figure out the basic pattern. After I finish this one I may try it in size 20, so far I have been working in size 10 thread. The Lydia was tooo soft and I am working in Flora now and it is better.

PS: oops, pattern is beeton edging 0114
http://www.intatters.com/knots/2010/03/tatted-edging/

[StephanieGrace]

Imoshen: LOL. Ya learn something new everyday. :wink:

MercyPres: Good luck! I can't wait to see what you do as the current illustration probably does no justice to the edging!

Follow up on my last post, lol: I did as much as I could with the length of white that I cut for the rings... :-/ Then, I went to crochet the border (By the way, I literally have not crocheted in several years. LOL). Let's just say the border isn't on there. I couldn't find the crochet hook that I swear is somewhere around here... The small one I use for joins is definitely too small and the only other one I found decided it didn't like me... Even after I stretched (majorly) two of my picots for it, it still didn't want to cooperate. Tomorrow, hopefully, I'll get a chance to grab one from my mom's stash. :smile:

:heart:,
Stephanie Grace

A FEW MOMENTS LATER: My computer mouse died on me --the batteries have literally been dying for a week. I stood up to go and get new ones, but first moved a paper to check my desk... Lo and behold, there was a crochet hook right there! LOL. It's still too big, I think, but I'm going to give a go now. :-)

[MercyPres]

I double checked and yep this is called a challenge. It certainly is for me.

Stephanie, I understand about the colors making a difference in liking a pattern. I see patterns in colors done here and posted and I love them but then I chose the wrong color and it makes a big difference in how I view them.

[StephanieGrace]

After my last post, I realized that, yup, the hook is too big. I'll grab one tomorrow.

MercyPres: I can't tell you how many things I've thought were so gorgeous, then I started and stopped because of the color. When I looked at this edging in front of me, though, I realized that it doesn't remind of flowers but moths. LOL. If the border is on the bottom, okay, maybe flowers, but with the border of the top, definitely moths. I'm thinking that I'm going to do it again in different colors and see if I can't make it look better --maybe butterflies instead of moths? LOL. Now, I just have to figure out what I'll use the edgings for --other than trying for a picture, of course. LOL.

:heart:,
Stephanie Grace

[HJ Hess]

Thats a very pretty thread Mike, what is it? I love your long picots, they make it look so delicate.
Mike's tatting always has this lovely ethereal quality.
.

[Mike M]

Hegla,
I loved you before, I love you even more now. You have made my month thanks. I should send you a few more pieces.

[MercyPres]

Ok. I am fighting this pattern, I know I am and the thread is winning.
http://www.intatters.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5167 (http://www.intatters.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5167)

Tatted Edging - Beeton's book of Needlework
http://www.intatters.com/knots/2010/03/tatted-edging/
This is sample 4. Still not happy with it. This pattern is ALL chains. Thread Flora size 10. I will try the pattern in size 20 next.
I cannot get the top chain (above the scallops) of row 1 to be straight. Row 2 the center ring is not a ring simply isn't working for me. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Suggestions????

[Judy]

Top chain -- would Ruth Perry's Balanced double stitch help?

[Judy]

I don't agree with your conclusion on color choice.
i guess its a pattern that needs to be solid color.
Carolivy's looks tighter to start with because she used mini picots for the side joins. I think the pink brings out a heart theme. Green would make it look like a shamrock, white like a dogwood bloom.

[MercyPres]

Carolivy's looks tighter to start with because she used mini picots for the side joins. I think the pink brings out a heart theme. Green would make it look like a shamrock, white like a dogwood bloom.
What a great idea. I love dogwood blooms and use photos I have taken of blooms from our trees on cards, now I can tat some. Another project to try for my list.

I will look up Ruth Perry's Balanced double stitch and try that next. I will master that design, it just might take me all summer at this rate though.

[coretta]

I have started 9069 edging (http://www.intatters.com/knots/2010/04/edging-9069/), from the Coats 229 book. It twists where the two rings are across from each other. I've done about 5 inches or so, using varied purple cotton pearl, ( a thread I hadn't used before, why try it with a pattern I've never done, sucker for punishment or something. :)

[StephanieGrace]

Here is my first go at http://www.intatters.com/knots/2009/12/beeton-edge/ (http://www.intatters.com/../knots/2009/12/beeton-edge/) :
5219
It looks bad, I know and I'd LOVE to say that finishing with the crochet part would make it look better, but I don't think so. I'm still going to try the crochet part, but I'm posting this for two reasons:

#1. I mentioned this in an earlier post so I figured, well, why not... LOL.
#2. I'd *really* like someone else to say, "Yes, I see moths too!"

:blush:

You can see where the picots were stretched from my attempts at the crochet part with hooks that were far too large. I'm going to try it again, but I'm definitely looking more toward seeing my second attempt, so I want to do a few more on that one... Probably tomorrow since I just spent a few hours fighting with my computer to get it recognize my printer as a scanner.... :ermm:

:heart:,
Stephanie Grace

[Kersti]

Have updated Knots - and I'll be adding in some more links to vintage patterns that need photos today

[shannon_in_love]

thanks so much kersti

[gahorsley]

mike your Hearts Desire was beautiful! I took the pattern with me to Mexico to be my vacation project and had trouble right at the start, so never did get it done. Yours is abosolutely gorgeous and I must have another go at the pattern now. Your thread was so pretty!

[MercyPres]

I have seen several different tatters 'Hearts Desire' and they look different because of color and picot size. They are all lovely though. That is something that amazes me with tatting patterns.

[soyloquesoy]

Yes, that pattern deserves a collection of pictures - so many different effects, and all lovely!

[Kersti]

OK, a few more vintage images - patterns should be available in a number of books, if you find one in a book not mentioned please leave a comment so that I can make sure all the information is available. More will be added tomorrow and Tuesday too

[mistyknits]

I'm going to give "Star in Tatting" by Beeton a go. I'm a relatively new tatter, but it looks like something I can do.

[spuriportugal]

Summer challenge

Hi Kersti and everyone,
I'm in troubles...I hurt myself in my shoulder and at schooll...the end of school term I'm having lots of work to do, so, I'm tatting very, very slow......
I'll put pictures of my tatting work as soon as I can, but I'm late...sorry....
Maria

[Judy]

Maria,
Please put your health first! We are all hoping you get better soon, but don't worry about finishing tatting and taking pictures when your shoulder hurts. If you miss tatting, you can dream and plan out things you want to do in your head until you get better and can actually do it. And let us know how you are, when you have time.

[Josie Passell]

Oh Maria, you poor thing, it's so frustrating not to be able to do the things one loves. Hoping it's not too long before you're better.

[coretta]

Kersti,
I read somewhere something about thread choice. Do the knots photos needed submissions of tatting have to be in a certain color? And once we have something (picture) to share how, where etc, do we post or send it?

[frakira]

but I'm late...sorry....

Late? Is here deadline for this challenge? (I am ashamed, but my girl lost my little piece of work, so I must begin again and be more careful :-/ )

[gahorsley]

spuriportugal--hope you are feeling better. take care of YOU!

[Kersti]

Hi Kersti and everyone,
I'm in troubles...I hurt myself in my shoulder and at schooll...the end of school term I'm having lots of work to do, so, I'm tatting very, very slow......
I'll put pictures of my tatting work as soon as I can, but I'm late...sorry....
Maria

That sounds terrible, please concentrate on getting better - these challenges are meant to be fun and to be honest there is no time frame at all.

[Kersti]

Kersti,
I read somewhere something about thread choice. Do the knots photos needed submissions of tatting have to be in a certain color? And once we have something (picture) to share how, where etc, do we post or send it?

No set colours or threads, just a clear photograph or scan so that it will work as a replacement image on knots.
When you have something to share place the image in your albums and make a note of it here or attach it here.

[spuriportugal]

Dear friends,
thank you for your kind words...I belive that with some rest I'll be better...doctor told me that I can't do hard work..."must rest!", he said!!!
So, if we have no deadline for this exchange, I guess I can do it!!!
Hugs, from Portugal,
Maria

[Judy]

Just rest, and talk to us!

[coretta]

No set colours or threads, just a clear photograph or scan so that it will work as a replacement image on knots.
When you have something to share place the image in your albums and make a note of it here or attach it here.

Thanks Kersti,
Easy enough. When I can sit for longer than 5 mins I will get back to that edging. :)

[Josie Passell]

I am going to abandon following the Hayden yoke pattern, as my tatting is too tight :-( but I will continue to make a collar, adapting it as I go.

[StephanieGrace]

Have I ever mentioned that I'm a ditzy blonde? LOL. Well, I'm sure that you all know about this, but I downloaded this from http://www.antiquepatternlibrary.org (http://www.antiquepatternlibrary.org/) and noticed several patterns/projects from this challenge, so I figured I should share it... :blush:

http://www.antiquepatterns.dreamhosters.com/BeetonNeedlework1-184.pdf

:heart:,
Stephanie Grace

[carolivy]

Thanks for that Stephanie!

[StephanieGrace]

You mean it wasn't just me that never knew all along that it was all right there? LOL... Now, I'm just getting frustrated going through the library since many of the PDF files keep asking for passwords and I can't seem to find out what or why on the website... :-/ I want something to tat and I just can't seem to find anything that's making me jump right now.... :-( There's got to be something in that library that makes me clap and grab a needle --or shuttle since I'm still determined to make something with the shuttle. LOL.

[Kersti]

I didn't hit any passwords on PDFs - I would generally note that in the description of the pattern if that were the case, can you let me know which patterns you're getting this for?

[IcePrincess]

As discussed on the Ancient Pattern Library group this probably is a version problem with Adobe reader. You have to have Version 9 otherwise the new files won't properly work!

[creadozo]

As discussed on the Ancient Pattern Library group this probably is a version problem with Adobe reader. You have to have Version 9 otherwise the new files won't properly work! And make sure that you install the latest version. I heard of people who downloaded the newest version of Adobe, but forgot to install it :blush:

[StephanieGrace]

Hmm... I didn't even think of blaming Adobe (I should have known considering the trouble I had with it on parents' computer the other day). I just updated my Linux OS, so everything should be the latest versions. I'll run a check and then look at the Adobe website, but I'm thinking that maybe the problem is because I have Linux and not Windows. There are plenty of things that block me or don't work properly without me installing programs to make them work right. *rolls eyes* That's what I get for deleting Windows, LOL, but my computer runs so much better without it! :-) I'll look into it later... I'll go through and note which ones I'm having a problem with and have someone else try them or I'll try them on a different computer tomorrow. :-)

Now, though, I think I'm going to write down some of a pattern, grab a needle, and sit on my couch and tat for a few hours. LOL. (Need to de-mood myself before I throw something. LOL).

-Stephanie Grace

[soyloquesoy]

I am on linux too and have had a "password" asked for on some Antique Pattern Library pdfs. If you ever solve it, I'd love to hear!

[shannon_in_love]

kersti. are there any scans for the ann orr patterns you recently posted on knots? for some reason i am in a round motif mood...weird its lasted like a week...

[Kersti]

Let me know which ones you're after - just copy the URL from knots and I'll see what I can find

[shannon_in_love]

I have actually (since) found the book. in the archives I believe.. so i got it... thank you for all the help here.

[StephanieGrace]

I believe it IS just the Linux thing as far as asking for passwords. I'm not on a computer with Windows and PDFs that wouldn't work at home are working here. When I get home, I'll try and see if there some way around this. LOL.

-Stephanie Grace

[soyloquesoy]

:( oh, well. Thanks for telling me. I have access to Windows computers if I really need them, so it is good to know this workaround exists.

[StephanieGrace]

Re: The Linux Problem. ;-)

I found a way around it! I think... LOL. It worked for me. Here's what I did: First, you'll need the WINE program. I don't remember how I got it, but you could always just run one of the programs to find it or search for how to get it. ;-) I downloaded Adobe Acrobat for Windows and then moved the .exe file to the C:\ Drive that WINE creates. Then, I ran the installation and (making sure that it was installing to C:\Program Files). I got an access violation pup-up and an error message, but everything went through. Then, I opened the reader from the Program Files folder. I downloaded and saved the PDF to my computer and opened it and Viola! It actually worked!

Sorry if I spoke in circles there. If you'd like to give a try and need me to reword or need any help or anything, just send me a message and I'll try to help as best as I can. :-) Hope it works for you! :-) (After spending most of the day going through the library for anything that mentioned tatting, I'm kicking myself for not figuring this out sooner. LOL. I didn't have to rush through each one! LOL. Now, I can see them at my leisure.. I'm pretty happy about that. LOL. ;-)

-Stephanie Grace

[soyloquesoy]

that makes a lot of sense to me. I have not tried WINE yet (not that kind of wine, I mean!) but I know what you are talking about. I am glad you can browse all those patterns now, and hope you find something that strikes your fancy! What sort of thing are you looking for? small, big, doily, edging...?

[soyloquesoy]

ok, a couple that strike *my* fancy:
http://www.intatters.com/knots/2010/01/diamond-pattern/
http://www.intatters.com/knots/2010/06/1777/
http://www.intatters.com/knots/2010/01/circle-in-tatting-2/

[shannon_in_love]

i agree.. they caught mine also

[soyloquesoy]

They are good to take the "itch" for taking part in the challenge, because they are small! They are bound to end quite different than the original pic (like the one I did, another "circle in tatting of Beetons´) - that's why new pics are needed, anyway - LOL!

[wmstem]

Hi everyone!

What a wonderful idea Kersti!

I love the idea of having the avid tatters of this group tat and scan (or photograph) the patterns that pictures are needed for.

I misunderstood the challenge. I thought it involved looking at a picture and figuring out the pattern from it. LOL!

If anyone is having problems reading a pattern, figuring out how it works, or has any questions I am more than willing to help. I have helped Australians with patterns and split chains in chat, so I'm up to the challenge.

Wishing you all plenty of shuttles and thread,

Bill

[StephanieGrace]

I like those as well, soyloquesoy! :-) There are several that I'm in love with and I keep going back to and then kicking myself for not having the right colors to make them look right... :-/ I'm determined to tat at least one thing tonight... and I will! Fireworks are going to be set off right behind where I live, so I'll definitely need something to calm my nerves (I hate fireworks.). I'm thinking I should give shuttle tatting something a try since it might not be the best idea to have a needle in my hand while there are loud bangs happening. LOL. I know me, I'll jump and end up with a needle through my hand... I don't want that! LOL.

Well, I'm going to jot down a pattern and get my night started. Hopefully, company won't show up so I can be nice and relaxed. Hmm... Tatting and a bubble bath sound quite good. LOL.

:heart:,
Stephanie Grace

[shannon_in_love]

hooray for bubble bath and tatting...i vote i should do that also

[wmstem]

Hi Kersti,

When I went to the Knots page, I noticed that some of the links led to a pattern and an old picture. Then some had a picture but no pattern, just the reference to the book the pattern was in.

Is your challenge to tat the item from the pattern?
If no pattern is available (I don't believe we get KNOTS here in the US), could I make a pattern from the picture that is available?

Thanks,

Bill

[shannon_in_love]

wmstem.
i found a great deal of awesome pdf's here. http://teritatbitdusenbury.wordpress.com/the-tatters-archive/ just look for the ones from knots. also there are tons here http://www.antiquepatternlibrary.org/ click on catalog and sift through. Again there are tons between the two sites and I found almost all the books from knots. good luck!!!

[StephanieGrace]

Thank you SO MUCH, Shannon for that first link in your post! I have two crappy tatting books that always leave me uninspired. Other than that, I depend on the free patterns available online. PDF has become my best friend in the last few days! LOL. --Especially since I figured out how to get the ones from antiquelibrary.org to work with my Linux OS. :-D Now, I just need some patience --No, really, I looked at my husband earlier and declared that I will master shuttle tatting as soon as I can just so I never have to thread a needle again. All the time I spend getting that thread into that needle... then, I go and make a mistake or the thread knots and... GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRr....... Start all over AGAIN, Stephanie. Today, I tried a pattern TWICE with one color thread. After way too much failure in threading (yes, I have a threader --I broke one already and felt that this one was going the same way as the last one if I pulled any harder. LOL) in each attempt, I finally realized: Ah! This pattern doesn't want to be done in this color... I changed colors and guess what? GRRRRRRR... I got nothin'. Probably doesn't help that I had to step away and have a few conversations. I WILL finish this! I did only the first two rings and one chain and it looks like poop, but I'm finishing. Maybe R2 will look better when Ch2 and R3 join it... Right? LOL.

Eek! Sorry.... Apparently, I needed to get that out. LOL. I ramble too much. LOL.

-Stephanie Grace

[shannon_in_love]

gosh i really wish i was right there with you to help. but i know you will get it right...i know it...maybe...yes definitely.!!!

[StephanieGrace]

Thank you, Shannon. It's just really nice to have a place to be able to rant, rave, and whine while learning. LOL. (Highlight of my weekend: I was told my mom made split chains, which she told me she couldn't do when I showed them to her -on needle, by the way. LOL. I showed up at her house and she was so thrilled and proud of herself and I smiled and had to laugh because she was doing one big, long chain of split rings and had NO ideas what she was doing it for or what it would be... How cute, right? LOL. THEN, I got to teach her the method that xstitchntat taught me with rings from a cut length of thread and chains off the ball. She got it! I'm very proud of her! :-) Okay, okay... I should be tatting. LOL.

-Stephanie Grace

[shannon_in_love]

i actually just made a video today addressing split chains on needle... i personally think they are much easier on needle than shuttle

[coretta]

I recently won Coats and Clark Book#229 on Ebay. So I have some of the patterns that are on Knots. I am happy to share if that's something I can do. Is it "legal" to post the pattern or scan it for sharing?

[Kersti]

When I went to the Knots page, I noticed that some of the links led to a pattern and an old picture. Then some had a picture but no pattern, just the reference to the book the pattern was in.

Is your challenge to tat the item from the pattern?
If no pattern is available (I don't believe we get KNOTS here in the US), could I make a pattern from the picture that is available?

Hi Bill

KNOTS is certainly available in the US - it's not a printed product, it is the online site you're seeing.

The purpose of the site is to catalog all patterns that are available, whether online, in print or vintage, for sale or for free. I try to put up one a day, although this does change and you'll often see a flurry of updates after a period of none. I also try to mix them up a little so you don't get two months worth of vintage only patterns. You'll also find links to blogs and other tatting-related websites. I'm seriously thinking of changing this practice and just putting a mass of them up every so often.

Where there is a photograph available I use that, although I'm much happier to use one from our members if one is available. Where the pattern comes from a book I include the image of the book. If it's a vintage pattern that is not public domain some of them will be available but not all - let me know if you do not have access to the original and if I do I can help you out.

For the challenge it's important that the image is of the pattern that is being represented. Some of the photos are clear enough to do stitch counting, but we wouldn't want that to be wrong and then have a newbie choose that pattern based on a photograph only to find that they do not get the same result.

The photos for the challenge are to replcace the vintage photos/drawings or complete lack of any image. In the case of vintage this often shows a pattern in a totally different light and can make what was an old fashioned item seem quite modern.

[Karen Wattai]

Would love to get involved with a challenge - now that my hand is recuperating from surgery. Would be just the physical therapy it needs!!! More details, please?????

[Josie Passell]

Hi Karen It's lovely to see you back on the forum. Glad you are recovering, it can be so frustrating not being able to do things. I think this is what you want to know, some of the pictures of the older tatting on the knots section need to be tatted and photographed. Kersti has put in this thread or somewhere that it has to be tatted to the original pattern to give a true representation.

[mistyknits]

I finished "Star in Tatting" by Beeton, but an having a devil of a time trying to add it to my album. I did not block the motif. Here it is.http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4114/4778764094_039dddc011_z_d.jpg

[shannon_in_love]

nice. did you do this shuttle or needle and did you use picot gauges? if its saying its too large, there is an online picture resizer. try that sometime.

[mistyknits]

Thank you for your kindness. I used a shuttle. I did not use picot gauges. I am one of those that "eyeball" my picots. When I have more time to fiddle with it, I will try one of the picture resizers. Thanks for the idea.

[shannon_in_love]

oh wow. they look so darn even. good job

[soyloquesoy]

Great work misty!

[soyloquesoy]

I just finished Susan Fuller's "Heart Desire". :smile:

[coretta]

I just posted a picture of Edging 9071 and then saw on Knots that Shannon-in-love has already submitted a picture. I am posting mine as addition then. I have the original pattern and it is different from what Shannon-in-love did. Also included is my adaptation of the edging to a bookmark. (I tried to add them inline, but guess I'm not smart enough, so they are captioned appropriately in my album)

[xstchntat]

I just posted a picture of Edging 9071 and then saw on Knots that Shannon-in-love has already submitted a picture. I am posting mine as addition then. I have the original pattern and it is different from what Shannon-in-love did. Also included is my adaptation of the edging to a bookmark. (I tried to add them inline, but guess I'm not smart enough, so they are captioned appropriately in my album)
I think they look great. Thanks for sharing them with us.

[Kersti]

I finished "Star in Tatting" by Beeton, but an having a devil of a time trying to add it to my album. I did not block the motif. Here it is.

Added :biggrin:



I just posted a picture of Edging 9071 and then saw on Knots that Shannon-in-love has already submitted a picture.

We can have more than one sample :biggrin:

[shannon_in_love]

I don't know if anyone has done these two motifs but I have just recently done them. they are from Anne Orr #48
this one is for http://www.intatters.com/knots/2010/06/round-medallion/ (http://www.intatters.com/../knots/2010/06/round-medallion/)
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and this picture is for http://www.intatters.com/knots/2010/06/small-tatted-medallion/ (http://www.intatters.com/../knots/2010/06/small-tatted-medallion/)
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I have some notes for this one..
**notes: easier to use 2 shuttles instead of shuttle and ball
when doing the small inner rings use the ball thread shuttle and tat using that.
might be easier using a split ring for the center ring, then climb out of it using a mock picot.

[carolivy]

Very nice tatting Shannon!

[frakira]

Very nice.. I like the second pattern very much, but I haven't this book ;-(

[shannon_in_love]

i got it here http://teritatbitdusenbury.wordpress.com/the-tatters-archive/ just click on the title of the book... its a pdf

[frakira]

Thanks a lot! ;-)

[alizandria]

I went ahead and did one of the flower bookmarks from the KNOTS listing...just wanted to share! :biggrin:
This is shuttle tatted with a 100% rayon thread, I believe the brand is EdMar or Lola, but I don't know the color. :huh: I found that the rayon would be difficult to do tightly on needles because it wants to unravel, but I managed to work it on the shuttle. It is very shiney and pretty! :wink:
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[shannon_in_love]

it looks very shiny. which pattern is that?

[alizandria]

http://sharonstattedlace.blogspot.com/2006/07/small-bookmarks.html

Thank you for the pattern Sharon! :)

[soyloquesoy]

Lovely work Alizandria! I was inspired by this pattern too, but can't put it in the challenge b/c I did not respect the stitch counts since I made it from memory on a bus ride :wink:

[Kersti]

I've updated KNOTS listing with all the challenge results so far.

[Vonnie]

I've been wanting to try Floral Spray 9105 from the J&P Coats #229. It's a bit difficult, but I like them hard...of course, it may take a while;) My pattern is on it's way and I have some lovely Lizbeth thread waiting for it:)

[IdahoCanuck]

Can't wait to see you finished piece! :)