View Full Version : Collectively, How Many Different Ways Do WE Know How to Bead Tatting?
PattyD
02-07-2010, 06:38 PM
Firstly, Jane Eborall (www.e.n.e.btinternet.co.uk/) has posted many, many different ways to bead tatting. Nina Libin (www.beanile.com/) has showed oodles more and comes to it from a different angle. These are for inspiration.
But as you practice tatting [like a doctor practices medicine!] how are you most likely to bead it?
shannon_in_love
02-07-2010, 11:33 PM
i like adding beads to the picots after (like in joining) for me that's the easiest
Ridgewoman
02-07-2010, 11:52 PM
Between picots ~ Jane's way. for some jewelry...Nina's way and sometimes I put them on the shuttle...it really depends on how I feel and what I'm doing. I never take beads when I tat in the car...not clever enough for that....as my design teacher was wont to say, "You lack dexterity" How can that be when i have no problems tatting with a shuttle. LOL bj
greatxiasghost
03-07-2010, 01:03 AM
i string the beads on the thread and then add them in the middle of a picot in needle tatting. so far its the only way that make sense to me.
When I've used beads in the past, I strung them on the thread before I wound the shuttle. It worked okay for the small Christmas snowflakes I made, but I think for larger pieces, I'd try Jane's method. Although I've read through it, and I understand the principal, I've never actually done it, but that's because I very seldom use beads.
squeeky
03-07-2010, 03:41 AM
I've tried both ways but prefer adding them to joining picots. When they're on the thread, they tend to get in my way and mess me up a lot. But, I'm not that good and not that patient. Being able to work with them on the shuttle or core thread is a goal (right after "Teach someone how to tat" and "Follow a pattern to the letter for a change"). :smile:
Sparrow
03-07-2010, 02:23 PM
Typically if I commit to doing a beaded piece, I'll go all the way. I like to use a combination of seed beads, faceted beads, and natural stone beads. I'll put them anywhere, including on the shuttle thread, on the core thread, between picots, and inside the rings [using a BDCRR method]. Sometimes I will even combine wire jewelry techniques to make bead drops and attach those to the tatting. Working on a theoretical piece combining peyote stitch [beading] and tatting. And then, of course, there are the possibilities involved with beads and tatted chain maille.
PattyD
03-07-2010, 04:22 PM
ooh! Sparrow, sounds very interesting. What might BDCRR method be? And do you bead a piece of peyote stitch and then attach the tatting to it, like an edging on a hanky or some other way of doing it?
Sparrow
03-07-2010, 05:57 PM
BDCRR = Beaded double core reverse ring
It sounds more complicated than it is. It uses one of the cores to put the bead into the center of the ring, so it is truly tatted in, not sewn in later.
With the peyote stitch, I think it could be done either way. But doing the beading first and then attaching the tatting to it would probably be the easier way.
soyloquesoy
03-07-2010, 09:48 PM
I don't know if this is a "named" technique, but once I did the following:
http://www.intatters.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5440
I was doing split rings for the first petal of each flower, then with one shuttle I made the central ring and from the other shuttle I slipped a bead into position at the centre of the ring, keeping the thread on the back of the ring. With the other shuttle I did the rest of the petals, and then the last one was a split ring with both shuttles.
I do not remember if I did a lock join with the beaded thread after positioning the bead and before starting the "last petal" split ring - I am thinking now, passing that shuttle through the loop while the ds could be a good idea for keeping the bead in place - I am also thinking, I remember seeing someone's instructions for a *beads in the centre of rings friendship bracelet* and not understanding them at the time - and maybe they explained this?
Anyway, this technique could be used whenever an old pattern calls for a bit of bare thread to go at the back of a ring.
MercyPres
03-07-2010, 09:56 PM
Soylo, how pretty. I love the way that looks.
These are the only ways at this time I have attached beads. Don't know how to describe so I tatted up a sample and put in my album:
1. Bead on the shuttle thread
2. Bead on the ball thread
3. Bead on the shuttle thread in a chain
4. and 5. Bead on the shuttle and ball thread
6. and 7. Bead on the Ring thread and shuttle thread
8. Bead on the ball thread
9. Bead from tray pulled onto the ball thread with crochet hook as tatting. I go ahead and run my shuttle thru the loop immediately so that my bead is part of the ring or chain as per Jane Eborall method. I had never seen her site when I started doing this.
10. Bead from tray pulled onto the ring thread thru join with crochet hook as tatting
11. Bead from tray pulled onto the ring thread with crochet hook as I am tatting.
soyloquesoy
03-07-2010, 10:25 PM
Thank you Mercy!
I like your sampler a lot. I take it 10 is the same used here (http://www.intatters.com/showthread.php?2057-Beaded-picot-bracelet)?
Sewicked (http://www.intatters.com/../member.php?30-Sewicked)mentions jane eborall's tutorial.
MercyPres
03-07-2010, 10:53 PM
I take it 10 is the same used here (http://www.intatters.com/showthread.php?2057-Beaded-picot-bracelet)?
Sewicked (http://www.intatters.com/../member.php?30-Sewicked)mentions jane eborall's tutorial.
It looks the same to me, except I go ahead and run my shuttle thru the loop immediately so that my bead is part of the ring or chain. I am going to edit my post to add in that bit of information, thank you for pointing that out to me. Until now I had not seen Jane's tutorial.
carolivy
06-07-2010, 12:35 PM
I used to only do the beads on the thread, so they ended up in the Picots, but have since learned how to add them to the needle, so they end up on the core thread and I have also learned how to do beaded joins as well as the beads in the middle of a ring. I love beads and will put them everywhere I conceivably can....lol
PattyD
06-07-2010, 03:44 PM
I'm with you Carol, when I use beads, they go anywhere the fancy strikes me.
ldr103
08-07-2010, 05:23 PM
I usually just stitch them on after, or, if I want a dangle, I slip the beads on a head pin and attach it like I'd make earrings.
Jon Yusoff
09-07-2010, 02:16 AM
I have added to my blog another way of showing beads in tatting (http://tatsaway.blogspot.com/2010/07/raised-beaded-tatting.html). Click on the link to go to my blog.
I don't know if this is a new or old method but I have not seen tatting with beads showing this way before.
PattyD
09-07-2010, 05:21 AM
Jon, this is brilliant! I think it's a new thing, certainly is to me!
MercyPres
09-07-2010, 05:40 AM
Jon, I love your way of raising the bead. I will be trying this. Thank you for sharing.
carolivy
09-07-2010, 11:19 AM
This is the way I did Joining Bead Picots until I saw photos of them done After the picot was made, so the bead covered the entire picot. I like both methods and use them both as well.
soyloquesoy
10-07-2010, 06:18 PM
I have added to my blog another way of showing beads in tatting (http://tatsaway.blogspot.com/2010/07/raised-beaded-tatting.html). Click on the link to go to my blog.
I don't know if this is a new or old method but I have not seen tatting with beads showing this way before.
Thanks so much! Lovely, clear explanations as always!
PattyD
11-07-2010, 03:16 AM
Sparrow!
Tatted chain mail sounds intriguing. How?
zahava
17-07-2010, 12:59 PM
can you show me some of your beaded jewelry?
i am still strugling.
Sparrow
17-07-2010, 01:22 PM
Bina Madden first showed me the technique. You make each ring separately; the trick is getting the rings to be actually round. I intend to write a book on it, once I finish with the other two books I'm working on, since I have experience with both maille weaving and tatting.
zahava
17-07-2010, 01:46 PM
good luck.
you have to see the ankars technique
translate it to needle
victats
17-07-2010, 01:57 PM
I often add beads to a lock join. I like it when I can add the beads as I go. This gives me more flexibility in color and bead type.
soyloquesoy
08-08-2010, 12:16 AM
I think Linda's way to add beads to picots without threading them before starting has not been mentioned, or has it? :unsure:
Anyway, here (http://toptattyhead.blogspot.com/2008/03/tatting-demonstration-beading-non_14.html) is her video demonstration. I agree with the previous posters, it is cool to be able to add the beads as you go sometimes.
BlueDode
09-08-2010, 12:50 AM
I categorize beading methods into two broad categories and am always interested in more methods:
1. Forethought methods: that require you to string the beads BEFORE you start tatting, on a ball, shuttle or auxiliary thread
2. Afterthought methods: that you add beads as you go -- not prestrung
3. Methods can be combined.
If there are small ones in your tatting environment, there's some choking risk with loose beads around, so stringing is a safer way to go -- as long as the small one doesn't chew through the thread...
When travelling it is easier to work with pre-threaded beads than to deal with open bead containers that could get dumped.
carolivy
09-08-2010, 01:43 AM
When traveling, I never work with beaded projects. Even ones with the beads prestrung. I've had thread mysteriously end on balls before and there go the beads! (Brand new balls where the thread ends and another begins instead of the two being tied together...both of which are frustrating!)