mantilla or chapel veil pattern?

[Imoshen]

Is this maybe what you were looking for? It's folded over but you can clearly see from the photo where you can shorten a motif to make that shape. This is from a french magazine called Frivolito's or maybe it's Spanish I can't really tell, but it's diagramed with no text.
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[NettieJacobs]

I am also working on a Mantilla, both in Tatting and in Crochet. For the Tatted mantilla, I am using a simple circular motif and joining them together (R: 4-4-4-4, CH: 4-4-4), bringing it into a circle (join on 1st picot of the ring to last picot of previous) (7 sets) and then joinging then entire set on the last picot of the first and last ring) then tatting a pretty edge just as you would on a napkin or hanky, your choice. My dimensions for a rectangle are 21" x 42" and the edging should be at least a 2" pattern. For the Crochet, I am using the Lover's Knot for the body, then a 5 pedal Boulion stitch spray for the edging.

[Lacetatting]

There is a piece in here, that has been used for that purpose...it is not from Adelheid's book, but it is in patchwork style and tatted in black...
Sonja knows it.....lol

http://www.intatters.com/album.php?albumid=853

[BlueDode]

As I understand it, a mantilla is a triangular lace shawl. Some websites I've found show knitted triangular shawls as mantillas; some websites show Spanish examples that evelope the body and drag on the floor, longer than most bridal veils/trains.

That said, if you can't find a tatting pattern, consider using a scarf pattern as a guide for dimensions. Look at knitting, crochet, and other lace patterns as well. If there are other terms for a mantilla, such as "chapel veil", consider searching using those terms as well. You can look at old tatting patterns online at www.antiquepatternlibrary.org and some other sites. Check any local libraries, or even library loan if that is possible.

If you decide on edging a piece of linen with tatting, consider selecting an edging and tatting it first, then cutting the linen to a dimension matching your tatting. I think you need to look for a tatting pattern that has a corner: alternatively, you could tat a square motif for the corner and an edging for the sides.

Sorry I couldn't be of more help

[kcabrera74]

The only requirement of a mantilla is that it covers both head and shoulders. It can be triangular, rectangular or semicircular. My great-grandmother's mantilla will brush the floor if worn with her peineta (mantilla comb - hers is very tall - and high heels) and it's done in Vologda lace. Teiko Fujito has a couple of very good shawl/mantillas in her book Tatting Fashion.

[Sherongb]

Here's another idea: Think of some of the baby bonnets, and how they are made. Start with a doily for the back of the head. Perhaps find an insertion you like and make 2 or 3 rows of it, width to end up covering the back of your head, length - as long as you want it from the upper back of your head to where you want it to end. Instead of an insertion you could do motifs joining them into a rectangle.

Now: Work around the 2 longer and 1 shorter side of the rectangle, don't worry about 'turning a courner', let these strips form a natural U shape (like from one ear, over the top of your head, and down to the other ear). Continue to work strips building the top and sides of the cap from the back of your head to the front (as far forward as you want it to go). You can do an extra row around the bottom to tie the strips together.

The strips can be edgings, insertions or motifs put together into strips.

Just another take on it. Have fun with it.

[Karen Bickerton]

Another possibility is to use netting underneath in the right shape and tat an edge and motifs to cover. This would allow you to use simple motifs, make it lacy, and make it substantial enough for regular use. Several of the reprints of tatting patterns have lace collars done this way, and it would require little adjustment in the shape of the netting underneath. I have done mantilla style veils for brides this way, and it has the advantage that once you have done the edging, you can keep adding motifs as you go, while still being able to use it. You can find both nylon and cotton netting--cotton netting is often sold as mosquito netting, but some of them are quite acceptable as a base for this type of work. You simply cut it to shape along the lines of the netting, check that it will not fray (finish the edge if this happens--nylon netting does not, but depending on how the cotton one is manufactured, it can. Then you can either work the edging straight onto the fabric, or tat it and attach. One other advantage is that should you decide later to join this by mingionette, you have it laid out, the shape of the spaces that need filled already done for you, and the tatting can be simply and easily taken off the netting as you go to finish a fully tatted veil. A variation on mingionette is rather than using the rings in each space, use a Catherine Wheel join--a single DS--which is a technique used in net making.