cluny leaves

[navywife77]

Is it possible to make cluny leaves in needle tatting? They are pretty, but I am still new to tatting and don't know how to use a shuttle. I have made a few things needle tatting. Any help is greatly appreciated.

[Holly Ann]

I'm interested in the answer, too. Sorry I can't help! I would venture to say somehow it can be done. Guess we will wait and see...

[SHL72]

Hi, I have attached a link that shows how to needle tat cluny leaves. I hope this helps you both.

http://needletatting.proboards.com/i...play&thread=28

[Sherongb]

It's much easier to make a cluny leaf using a needle than a shuttle. You don't have to get the shuttle between your hand and your loom threads. Mimi Dillman is the Cluny Queen and has much good information about cluny tatting on her site.

And you can also look at Georgia's special event from yesterdasy and Maria A from Mexico showed a 'doubly cluny leaf' which uses more loom threads and produces a thicker leaf. Worth looking at.

[PattyD]

Anything you can do with a shuttle, you can do with a needle and vice versa. It's not always as easy, but I think a Cluny might have a slight advantage with a needle.

After completing the previous element, use the ball thread to wrap the cluny frame as follows:
1. Hold the previous element in the pinch
2. Using the ball thread, which should exit the pinch going upward, wrap the thread over the middle and ring fingers consecutively, then back down into the pinch
3. Coming down out of the pinch, wrap the thread over the top of the pinkie, around the back of the pinkie and then back up through the pinch
4. Coming up out of the pinch, wrap the thread over the top of the ring finger and then wrap around the pinkie 3 times to lock the frame.
5. Move the bottom of the first loop from ring finger to the pinkie. This enlarges the angle between the left and right sides of the cluny frame, which makes it easier to make plump cluny leaves

Weave with the thread on the needle. Start weaving on the right side of the Cluny, a single row consists of weaving from the right edge to the left edge and the back to the right edge. In other words a round trip is one row.
Under the right edge, Over the center thread, Under the left edge
Over the left edge, Under the center thread, Over the right edge.

It takes up to a foot of thread to weave a cluny. The more thread there is in a cluny, the less likely it is to deform.

Weave the cluny in three stages
1. First a triangle starting from the point. Increase the width by the width of the thread on each side.
2. Second a square whose width is equal to the width of the last pass of the first triangle
3. Third a triangle starting with the width of the square, and decreasing the the width of the triangle by the width of one thread on each side until it reaches a point.

The straight center section creates the illusion of a curve and delivers a luscious, plump cluny. Leaving out the center square makes a diamond shape, which is also a nice trick to have up your sleeve.

I always take the thread that is weaving the cluny out through the left side and let it hang over the back of my hand. (This constitutes an extra half row).

Now make sure the completed cluny is firmly in the clamp (emphasizing that the pinch has to cover the entire cluny so that the weaves do not move).

-1. Move the loop that was originally on the ring finger back to the ring finger from the pinkie
-2. Unwrap the thread from the pinkie. This thread is the center thread of the Cluny and should go to the ball
-3. Release the loop from the pinkie, this loop should be exiting from the base of the Cluny
-4 Release the remaining loop from the fingers

Now there is a loop above the cluny and a loop below the cluny

First determine which side of the bottom loop starts to close the top loop. Then remove all the excess thread from the top loop. DO NOT just pull until the thread doesn't move anymore, it can lock the remaining threads and all your work will be for nothing and you will have to undo everything and start over!

Pull the single thread exiting from the top of the Cluny until the excess thread in the loop at the bottom of the Cluny is removed. Again, only pull until excess thread is removed (no strangling allowed!).

[carolivy]

Patty, with these directions I might actually be able to do Cluny now! Will have to give it another try soon.

[kmichand]

Weave with the thread on the needle. Start weaving on the right side of the Cluny, a single row consists of weaving from the right edge to the left edge and the back to the right edge. In other words a round trip is one row.

Thank you so much Patty! I have been looking all over trying to find out how to "count" the stitches. I have a written pattern and wasn't sure. Thanks again :)

[Ireneho]

Anything you can do with a shuttle, you can do with a needle and vice versa. It's not always as easy, but I think a Cluny might have a slight advantage with a needle.

After completing the previous element, use the ball thread to wrap the cluny frame as follows:
1. Hold the previous element in the pinch
2. Using the ball thread, which should exit the pinch going upward, wrap the thread over the middle and ring fingers consecutively, then back down into the pinch
3. Coming down out of the pinch, wrap the thread over the top of the pinkie, around the back of the pinkie and then back up through the pinch
4. Coming up out of the pinch, wrap the thread over the top of the ring finger and then wrap around the pinkie 3 times to lock the frame.
5. Move the bottom of the first loop from ring finger to the pinkie. This enlarges the angle between the left and right sides of the cluny frame, which makes it easier to make plump cluny leaves

Weave with the thread on the needle. Start weaving on the right side of the Cluny, a single row consists of weaving from the right edge to the left edge and the back to the right edge. In other words a round trip is one row.
Under the right edge, Over the center thread, Under the left edge
Over the left edge, Under the center thread, Over the right edge.

It takes up to a foot of thread to weave a cluny. The more thread there is in a cluny, the less likely it is to deform.

Weave the cluny in three stages
1. First a triangle starting from the point. Increase the width by the width of the thread on each side.
2. Second a square whose width is equal to the width of the last pass of the first triangle
3. Third a triangle starting with the width of the square, and decreasing the the width of the triangle by the width of one thread on each side until it reaches a point.

The straight center section creates the illusion of a curve and delivers a luscious, plump cluny. Leaving out the center square makes a diamond shape, which is also a nice trick to have up your sleeve.

I always take the thread that is weaving the cluny out through the left side and let it hang over the back of my hand. (This constitutes an extra half row).

Now make sure the completed cluny is firmly in the clamp (emphasizing that the pinch has to cover the entire cluny so that the weaves do not move).

-1. Move the loop that was originally on the ring finger back to the ring finger from the pinkie
-2. Unwrap the thread from the pinkie. This thread is the center thread of the Cluny and should go to the ball
-3. Release the loop from the pinkie, this loop should be exiting from the base of the Cluny
-4 Release the remaining loop from the fingers

Now there is a loop above the cluny and a loop below the cluny

First determine which side of the bottom loop starts to close the top loop. Then remove all the excess thread from the top loop. DO NOT just pull until the thread doesn't move anymore, it can lock the remaining threads and all your work will be for nothing and you will have to undo everything and start over!

Pull the single thread exiting from the top of the Cluny until the excess thread in the loop at the bottom of the Cluny is removed. Again, only pull until excess thread is removed (no strangling allowed!).

That's... confusing!

You won't mind if, er, I just continue making them on my flower loom...

I'm making quite a bit so I have some to play with, just in case they end up in the bin!

[PattyD]

Any way that works for you, works! Keep doing it if the product pleases you. It's your lace!

[Lynn]

Irene, I've actually seen a cluny frame somewhere. The first few times I tried to make them, my hand cramped painfully. Then I found the loom and thought that would be the way to go. But I wasn't actually trying to do anything with clunies; I was just learning the technique against one day when I might need it. If I ever do need to do them, I'll hunt up that frame first. Arthritic joints tend not to like holding that much tension for an extended time.
Here are a couple of youtube videos for those who want to watch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hittJJ0ixvA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kL8bIVusfrk
There is only a slight difference between them.
Then, there is the hanging cluny, found here.
And this is where I saw the frame. Gotta bookmark that one now.